יגאל שתיים הוא יגעל אפס...

מתקן את הסמינר, קורא את האמירה של שמעון מזרחי לגבי הציוניות של ניקולה וויציץ' ונזכר במגייר הנודע...

What rank do you think King Cold's soldiers were at?

From watching the anime (DBZ/Kai) & reading the manga, It seems to me that out of the 16 canonical soldiers (22 if you count the designing or coloring errors that made it seem like there were other soldiers there along the ones we see in Cold's spaceship) the majority are around Vegeta-Cui tier (excluding Iru and the other old soldier with the arm canon) while the few stronger henchmen (Captain, Fisshi, Jeice-esque etc.) were at least around the Zarbon-Dodoria's tier, Mecha-Frieza considered them to be strong enough to handle the Earthlings' resistance even though he, himself in his lower forms, had troubles to handle them on Namek (in Resurrection 'F' it seems like he didn't knew Piccolo was living on Earth, but he knew that Gohan - who back at the beginning of the fight had a power level of 200,000 - was a local Earthling) which would place them even higher than the notorious members of the Ginyu Force (excluding Captain Ginyu) who weren't near as strong as Krillin was when the battle vs. Frieza began (75,000).

I believe that King Cold - whose existence, according to Daizenshuu 7, was so secret not even the Ginyu Force were aware of him (despite Other World Tournament & Kid Buu Sagas' filler scenes + GT) - won't be hiring weaklings to serve as his direct command unit. The only time where we see them, in their original appearance (+ Cooler's Armored Squadron recolored sprites), clash with the Z-Fighters is in the 1992's NES game "Dragon Ball Z III: Ressen Jinzoningen" (Act 4 / Trunks Saga) where the human Z-Fighters (Krillin, Tien, Yamcha & Chiaotzu) have to fight them to free humans they've kidnapped.

However, and that's why I began to research this topic, in their later video games appearances they're always depicted as weaklings like the low-level Frieza Soldiers we saw on Namek (less than 1,500 BP): their depictions in "Dragon Ball Z: Budokai" (2002) is of Sui, Banan and Raspberry; in "Dragon Ball Z: Legacy of Goku II" they're depicted as the common soldiers from the previous game; in "Dragon Ball Z: Hakanuaru Densestsu" (2007) they're depicted as Appule, Banan & Sui. in "Dragon Ball Z - Bodukai Tenkaichi 3" (2007) they're shown to be Banan-esque Frieza Soldier & Appule; In one of "Dragon Ball Heroes" 2010 intros they're seen as part of the common grunts Frieza has in his ship who charges at the invading Note & Beat only to be taken out with ridiculous ease, In "Dragon Ball Z - Dokkan Battle" (2015/2016) they're depicted as Sui.

TL;DR Dragon Ball Wikia calls them "Frieza's Subordinates" and while it's English site ranks their Captain as a Middle Class soldier & the others as lower class goons (but that's never stated in the official sources, just a decision by some random person who edited there. Yet in "Frieza's Elite" page there they're listed as "elite combatants" = the same tier as Vegeta, Cui, Dodoria, Zarbon, Shisami & Tagoma; which makes their credibility even more funny looking); their Spanish site is contradicting it and spams bs about their ranks/power with higher numbers which they pulled out of their asses.

SO Where do you rank these soldiers?

(Originally posted here: https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/5jdkzq/what_rank_do_you_think_king_colds_soldiers_were_at/) 

Pikkon's Heroic Demise After Defeating A Galactic Warlord (Draft)

I see what you did there, Yamcha... Stinging Tien with his own Resurrection 'F' lines (Dragon Ball Super Episode 70)

My suggestions to how Resurrection 'F' Movie could have been better (applies to the arc too in a way)...

2 scenes of Frieza training with Tagoma on a mysterious planet (called: "Gravy") with gravity that rises as the time goes by, reaching that of over 500 times than Earth's in every 4 months time.

 First scene having them struggling to move around in 50 G; the next one (after the scene listed below & 4 months of training had passed) having them moving more swiftly with Frieza having no problems at all as he flips over and quickly passes Tagoma as he throw punches and kicks in the air, then the following scenario occurs: a close-up on the tyrant's eye shows a lightning which means he attained the power needed for his next evolution, he declares that his training are over and contact his men to set course to Earth, laughing maliciously as the camera enters the darkness in his laughter/mouth.

The torturing of Tagoma (someone who at his best is even weaker than 10% of 1st form Frieza) concept as a training method to get a zenkai boost is truly idiotic, it'll be better to write it out.

Length: 3-4 minutes (1.5-2 each).

A scene of Sorbet explaining that Frieza ordered him to hire the most notorious/vicious mercenaries known in the universe to add them to his invading force after he concluded his current manpower won't be enough for the task. Sorbet then joyfully examines Shisami train with them, the scene ends with Sorbet turns to the camera grinning. 

**Camera pans super fast to the right**

Galactic Patrol HQ - Turns out these new recruits were wanted by this faction which made them to thicken their monitoring over the Frieza Force, the info gathered helps the Galactic King become aware of Frieza's revival and plan to attack the Earth, he alerts Jaco who is in charge of this planet and ask him to alert Bulma who is "friends with the Saiyan who defeated Frieza on Namek". 

25 mercenaries in number, commanding 40 soldiers each, 5 of them per Z-Fighter during the battle (Volume 'F' mentions that they were given the newest type of Battle Armor however we only saw one of them in the film, 0 in the Dragon Ball Super anime & 27 in the manga).

Length: 2 mins.

Having Yamcha & Chiaotzu in the cast for the battle with Frieza's Army - they have 1000 soldiers, Earth now has 8 protectors (7 Z-Fighters + Jaco) which makes the odds in 1:125 which is much better than 1:177. Write out Krillin's post-trauma shock (pathetic to make him scared of soldiers Raditz can probably fight after having courage to fight Kid Buu 5 years earlier), but keep Frieza's promise to his men he'd give whoever kills him a planet of his liking. After beating up all the weak soldiers & the more dangerous mercenaries with ease, Shisami ask his bosses to join the battle and attacks Piccolo who just defeated his last rival, after a close fight the Super Namek takes him down with a Special Beam Cannon; Tagoma who is now a giant douche mocks Shisami for being pathetically weak (may add something like: "I'd kill him myself, eventually..."), he proceeds to loudly disrespect the annoyed Sorbet by asking Frieza to give him his position if he'll kill the resistance, when Sorbet yells at him he stays quiet and scolds him with his look, frightening his former superior officer, Frieza laughs as he enjoys the new evil personality of Tagoma agrees to nominate him as the chief commander of his army and to also give him a planet of his liking (as in DB Super episode 21).

 Tagoma then uses after-image to get to the surface and sneaks on the exhausted Piccolo from behind, kicks him to the ground and rips off his arm when he tries to fight back, he then proceeds to decimate him like in the anime arc, Gohan blasts him off and gives Piccolo a Senzu bean, then once the fog from the blast is gone Gohan notices that Tagoma is still on his feet, laughing that he can't be defeated by weaklings like him, he looks at the other Z-Fighters and challenge them all to come at him, Gohan realized that slacking off training may have costed him this one, so he goes SSJ (much to Frieza & Sorbet's surprise/shock) and takes Tagoma out with one blow to the gut. Frieza has the same dialogue with the last soldier as in the movie, then he kills all his dying defeated men (with the Z-Fighters taking a jump above the blast, Jaco is in the safe back with Bulma), and decides to attack Gohan before he even landed on the surface with a quick barrage of Death Beams, knocking him to the ground.

Length: 17 minutes (instead of the current 15).

Majin Buu joins the battle with Frieza, sensing the dying ki of SSJ Gohan, he wakes up, and rushes to the battlefield (breaking Satan's house's window, leaving him and Bee amazed), Buu deflects Frieza's final death beam that was aimed at Gohan half a second before Piccolo managed to sacrifice himself for his student. While Frieza is shocked at the appearance of a new fighter in the ring, Gohan gets a Senzu bean from Krillin, experiences a Zenkai boost, turns SSJ 2 and intends to take on Frieza for his family (I'd say that if his Mystic Form was a 1000 then he's now at roughly 3/4 of it).

Length: 1:20 mins.

A fight scene of Frieza using 80% of his newfound power in his 1st form, Frieza is damaged but is not taken down by the two, as he powered up insanely in Gravy. Then Bulma interferes after talking with Whis and asks everyone to raise their Ki to the max as Goku (& Vegeta) needs to sense their presence in order to teleport back to Earth from Beerus' Planet. Even though Gohan's power level only keeps on rising as he fights the tyrant (now a 7/8 of his Mystic prime) and Mr. Buu's regeneration is proving troublesome to him, Frieza (who noted he won't be able to keep this up if the scnario keeps on going that direction [with a possible counting of the others jumping in]) holds the fight before continuing to his 2nd form, noting he can kill the two later and that their action is probably the key of bringing Goku to him.

Length: 2 minutes.

I wouldn't mind having Vegeta to kill off Frieza but then again it was a good opportunity to demonstrate Whis' rewinding time technique, so why not? here, Goku, have it, send him back to hell. Frieza is finally getting to be killed by his arch-nemesis.

Overall movie length: 105:20 mins AT MOST instead of the original 93 minutes.
Chances they'll remake it one day to be like this: 5% (the Future Trunks Special Edition with 12 more minutes was nice, but this Goku Black/Zamasu thing has no place in RoF, at least to my taste). Honestly, as a self-taught Animator, I'd say all they have to do besides creating the scenes listed above is to add the characters of Yamcha, Chiaotzu, Tagoma  & Majin Buu to existing cells/frames and animate them along as needed to be in the given scenarios. Sounds easy, but considering the fact it takes 25 frames to create 1 second of footage, it means many-many drawings.

מבצע "פרענק-קל" של ד"ר פרנקל - ציור תגובה לקריאת פוסט על פרשיית "חטופי תימן (היו שם עולים מכל מיני מדינות)" והסירוב של שרת המשפטים, איילת שקד, לחשוף את הפרוטוקולים הממשלתיים במלואם גם לאחר 70 שנה

How I believe the Human Z-Fighters against Kid Buu on the Grand Kai's Planet was supposed to be...

Original frame from Dragon Ball Z Kai Episode 151 (Krillin & Yamcha charge ki blasts against the crazy mass-murderer Majin - originally in Dragon Ball Z Episode 278 counted by fans as "filler" but now it's cannon):

My take - Tien Shinhan and Chiaotzu are included as they were dead too at that time, weird they were never taken there:

The end of Mijorin (4 tries of lighting)

My suggestions to how Resurrection 'F' Movie could have been better (applies to the arc too in a way)...

Yesterday's chart updated: Sorbet's Galactic Frieza Army (Ages 767 - 779) according to the Resurrection 'F' movie, manga and anime saga

I LOVE IT THAT THE DRAGON BALL KAI STAFF KEPT THE GRAND KAI'S PLANET SCENES AROUND DESPITE IT WAS "FILLER"!

These scenes only showed in detail the top-guns of this planet instead of random bg characters that were shown in DBZ when Kid Buu arrived: Mariakoh, Olibu, Pikkon, Torbie, Krillin and Yamcha.

Instead of King Kai, Krillin and Yamcha sensing the battle on the Kaioshin Realm while circled by the top-guns and random bg characters, Kai made this scene of the trio standing on top of a damaged bridge.

West Kai has no clue about Majin Buu's threat nor identity, but his best student Pikkon now does.

I like this scene of the canon characters sensing the battle of Goku and Vegeta vs. Majin Buu in one group while the filler ones are on the other.

The Galactic Frieza Army under Sorbet (Ages 767 - 779) + Power Levels and names I gave to unknown staff {2 Versions with fixed Mango}

The Galactic Frieza Army under Sorbet (Ages 767 - 779) + Power Levels and names I gave to unknown staff {Alternate Version}

שרבוט של נפתלי בנט לאחר פוסט ה"אברהם אבינו" שלו

The Galactic Frieza Army under Sorbet (Ages 767 - 779) + Power Levels and names I gave to unknown staff

The End of Coolsville (mapped by all available Scooby-Doo comics, cartoons & novels from 1969 - 2016)

Examining a 1989-2016 phenomenon: The Dragon Ball franchise's Saiyan obsession makes no sense!

From in-universe checking of their history: the Saiyans were a race of people who originated in Planet Salad (or Sadla) where there was some internal conflict going on, then they had to take refuge and fled to outer space in small numbers via a "mysterious spaceship" and landed on Planet Plant (Age 550). Nothing to indicate an extreme level of strengh or universal importance is shown in flashbacks about these years in Saiyan History, only barbarism and thirst to battle. Since their arrival till their uprising in Age 720 (that lasted ten more years) they had to respect the Tuffle majority on the planet who were technologically superior to them despite the Tuffles being a race of weaklings even in Raditz's standards, the "all mighty" Saiyans had no powers to defeat them and lived in the sidelines of the Tuffle cities as violent raiders. After becoming a "free people" and renaming the planet after their leader, Vegeta sr., the Saiyans were hired by Frieza's Army (or Arcosians) to do some dirty work for them conquering a planet in return for technological goods and cash. The Saiyans' job as space pirates lasted 7 years while their status was of LOW-LEVEL SMALL FRIES within the Galactic Frieza Army and there was nothing to support their own claim of being "the strongest race in space", yet paranoid Frieza had no intention of checking out the validity of their legend of a "Super Saiyan that appeared 1000 years ago" and destroyed 99.999% of them alongside their stolen homeworld.

This status of being useful idiots was kept till early DBZ (about 24 years into the future since Frieza blew them up) as shown by the mockery the tyrant & his Middle-Elite goons kept throwing at Vegeta, Nappa and Radditz who were basically their cannon fodders.

Then, after we learnt of the Super Saiyan power against Frieza on Namek, the staff who saw the financial potential behind it began to reshape the Saiyan race as the "ultimate warrior race" that has no & never had any bounderies (expanding their prime to 80 years of age, while the old days Saiyans never came close even to the power level of Cui).

Saiyans became the sole purpose of the franchise, minimizing the roles of any other non-Saiyan character and attaching every plot to revolve around this race, it began with the Androids Conflict (Age 767=5 years prior, Saiyans were basically sucking in terms of raw power) where Humans became almost useless (giving a hand when they're needed but it never really changed much), Piccolo who was a Super Namek couldn't came close to the mastered Super Saiyans but stayed in the front, while the Saiyans managed to do all the ass kicking the show needed in each saga: 11 years old Saiyan-Human hybrid Gohan went SSJ 2 and overcame Super Perfect Cell; Majin Buu who terrorized the 7th Universe for millions of years was blocked by SSJ 2 Goku & Vegeta before an interplanetary Spirit Bomb killed him with even the Kaioshins who are supposed to be the ultimate deities in the universe proving no match for the Saiyans' power, then the Saiyans were able to draw the attention of Beerus the local God of Destruction and Goku with the energy drawn from 5 individuals of Saiyan heritage went "Super Saiyan God" (the newest form of no-sense bullshit to keep the show running, I like SSJ4 more) go toe to toe with him. It continued with the Resurrection 'F' story, where Saiyans basically ran the plot and ended it as "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyans" when needed, U6 & U7 Tournament proved again this show had became pointless other than promoting Goku & Vegeta toys with them taking all the action time. Now that the Goku Black arc ended (THANK GOODNESS!) we can summerize it like this: a Kaioshin full with hate towards mortals falls in love with the body of Goku, steals it to proceed with his life dream of erasing mortals, declares "Saiyans are the glorified warrior race" a few times over the fight(s), merges with his immortal counterpart and lost to a Saiyan-Human hybrid who caused all the arc to happen.

Should I even mention DBZ Movies and Dragon Ball GT (look at Ledgic & General Rildo's comments basically saying "only Saiyans could be this powerful" while facing Goku) which besides Baby & Dr. Raichi who had a really good reason for hating or even knowing about Saiyans, were all about Super Saiyans action time & glorifcation of that race?

TL;DR: How could a bunch of space simian humanoids who were used as galactic cannon fodders for King Cold's empire became the unstopable power in the universe that surpasses even the Gods (Kaioshins & probably even Hakaishins by the end of Super) within 4.5 decades, taking over a good franchise and seemingly has no physical limits to their growing in strength?

Originally posted here: https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/5dpmbh/examining_a_19892016_phenomenon_the_dragon_ball/

Blue Bob - p. 2 with text buble for Cui

Blue Bob - Dragon Ball spin-off fan manga I've began these last 8 days

דוד ביטן - כלב השמירה של נתניהו

My take on why Ledgic was aware of Saiyans...

So in my theory, Ledgic was an operations officer in Frieza's Army back at the time the Saiyan race was annexed (Age 730), he was in charge of a few Saiyans (the one on the left - kyuri - Japanese for "cucumber" - was Goku's grandpa, that's how he recognized him after all these years in Dragon Ball GT) whom he used to conquer planets and was aware of the Saiyans' fighting abilities & desire for bloody adventures, till they were eliminated by Frieza himself alongside their "home planet" a few years later (Age 737).

After Frieza was defeated (alongside all of his men, elites & Ginyu Force) on Planet Namek in December 24th of Age 762, Ledgic who spent most of his life under the tyrant's control decided to make a quick run for it towards freedom, yet because of the fact his homeworld was wiped by Frieza and most of his race remnants was still loyal to King Cold's family throne, he had no other option but to wander the 7th Universe and to use the only thing he had - his lifelong fighting skills - to make a living. Ledgic went on to live a life of a freelance bountyhunter and bodyguard till he was famous enough in our galaxy to be spotted/noted by the dictator Don Kee who hired him to be his main man on Planet Imecka where he gained the upper hand over the locals.

Hypothetical 5th Form Frieza (based upon the Galactic Frieza Army symbol in Dragon Ball Online from 2010)...

THE EVOLUTION OF LOVE

Finally finished coloring that Carnage from 4 months ago...

After a decade, I have finally made some new DBZ gifs...

Using Piccolo's fight scene with Frieza's 1000 soldiers army in Resurrection 'F'...

Fun Facts about Zamasu/Goku Black & the Galactic Frieza Army

I have noticed these characters' development is based upon several Frieza Army techniques/events shown in Dragon Ball Z: Zamasu switching his bodies with Son Goku to become Black is based upon Captain Ginyu's Body Change with the Saiyan hero on Namek; their signature move of using an energy blade is based upon Sauza/Salza's technique (first character to use such a thing) from DBZ movie 5; and they also confirmed that the reason for their "zero mortals plan" was Future Trunks' time travels that started with his interruption with Frieza & King Cold's invasion to Earth which altered the history of the main time line (according to them it was a "sin").

Bardock: The Father of Goku & Episode of Bardock's Power Levels

AGE 737 - On Planet Kanassa:

*Bardock: 7,500

- Great Ape Bardock: 75,000

*Toma: 4,700

- Great Ape Toma: 47,000

*Borgos: 3,500

- Great Ape Borgos: 35,000

*Shugesh: 3,000

-Great Ape Shugesh: 30,000

*Fasha: 1,800

- Ozaru Fasha: 18,000

*Kanassan worriors: 5,000 each

*Dementrious: 6,000

*Kanassan Commander: 8,000

*Toolo: 7,000

- Toolo injured before attacking Bardock: 1,100 (Stated on Dragon Ball Carddass)

Bardock after Toolo attacked him: 1,000 (faints to 1)

On Planet Vegeta:

*Malaka: 500

*Planthorr: 550

*Bardock in the Medical Machine: 9,700 ("almost 10,000")

*Baby Kakarot/Goku: 2

*Baby Broly: 10,000

*Paragus: 4,000

*King Vegeta: 15,000 (Carddass)

*King Vegeta's elites: 3,000 - 7,000

*Zorn: 5,000

*Nappa: 3,200 (young -  Carddass)

*Raditz (Dragon Ball Minus): 700

*Bardock's Saiyan partenr (Dragon Ball Minus): 7,000

*Aliens Bardock & his partner killed: 1,500 each

*Kid Vegeta: 2,900  (Carddass)

*Saibamen: 1,000 each

*Frieza Soldier monitoring Vegeta: 1,000

On Planet Meat: 

*Meat residents: 300 (according to Carddass)

*Toma: 5,000 (Carddass)

- Toma (dying): 200

*Borgos: 4,000 (Carddass)

*Shugesh: 4,200 (Carddass)

*Fasha: 2,000 (Carddass)

*Bardock shocked from the sight of his dead crew: 1,200

- Bardock angry at Toma's death: 11,700

- Bardock's full might against Dodoria's Elites: 17,500

*Horned Gang Leader: 12,500

*Appule's race soldier: 10,000

*Frieza's brown soldier: 11,500

*Grunt Soldier: 11,000 (frogish)

*Dodoria: 15,000 (Tree of Might pamphlet)

- Dodoria's Mouth Blast at Bardok: 21,000

*Bardock after the blast: 1,700

Back on Planet Vegeta:

*Common Saiyans: 400 - 1,000 (low levels)

*Gine: 800 (Dragon Ball Minus)

*Frieza: 530,000

- Frieza's Super Nova: 600,000

*Zarbon: 17,000 (Tree of Might pamphlet)

*Frieza's geko advisor: 25,000 (Dragon Ball Minus only)

*Advisor's bouncers: 2,500 each

*Bardock charging at Frieza's ship: 20,000

- Bardock's Final Spirit Cannon: 50,000

*Frieza's soldiers: 1,300 each

BACK IN TIME TO PLANET PLANT

*Ipana: 6

- Ipana injured: 2

*Berry: 3

- Berry injured by Chilled: 1

*Village Mayor (manga): 8

*Bardock (Zenkai after elixir heal): 35,000

- Bardock after Training in cave: 45,000 (some time had passed)

- Bardock's mad believing Chilled is Frieza: 100,000 (punches him)

- Bardock reeling on the Ground after Chilled crushed him: 14,500

- Bardock mad because of Berry being hurt while he wasn't able to help him: 110,000

- Bardock's power rises when remebering his crew: 350,000

- Super Saiyan Bardock: 725,000

- SSJ Bardock's Rebellion Trigger: 850,000

*Plants: 2-10

*Toobi: 7,500

*Cabira: 6,500

*Chiled's space pirates: 5,000 - 10,000 (soldiers being pathetic vs. Bardock)

*Chilled's medics: 300

*Chilled: 500,000

- Chilled shocked: 450,000

- Chilled's Death Ball: 750,000

- Chilled dying: 3

Fun fact about Tien & Yamcha's Dragon Ball Super outfits

I just found out Tien and Yamcha's outifits are based upon Cell Games Saga characters' design; Tien's Chinese outfit derived from Mr. Lao's outfit during his fight with Mercenary Tao (http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/File:Lime%26Lao.png) while Yamcha's white & black Martial Artist outfit looks the same as Gohan during the 10 days of waiting for the Cell Games (http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/File:BourbonBegs.png).

Cold Tale... King Cold warns Cooler & Frieza about the God of Destruction, Beerus & Majin Buu, the creature of havoc